Challenges to the Assumed Somatic Basis for Feeling
Examining States Diverging from Expectations — Number 4 in the Observation Series
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In our exploration so far, we have taken the first steps toward a rigorous science of subjective experience by establishing a working map establishing feeling states as inextricably coupled with their corresponding virtual material properties (The Crucial Role of Observation). We have tested key assumptions, beginning with the idea that a given emotion — such as sadness — might present a stable and universal signature across individuals. That hypothesis was quickly overturned (Surprising Results as We Begin).
We then examined whether individuals, while experiencing emotions in ways different from one another, might at least experience their own emotions in a consistent way over time, only to find that even this was not the case. What emerged instead was an undeniable influence of life context: the same emotion, as named consistently by a single person, could appear in radically different forms depending on the situation in which it arose.
In the most recent post, A New Hypothesis: The Sadness Signature, we began to notice even more disruptive anomalies between what we might expect to find in the actual experience of sadness and the wildly diverse virtual material properties and locations of the experiences observed. The latter was most perplexing as we discovered that nearly half of our observations documented the experience of sadness extending beyond the boundary of the body. This stands in contrast with conventional thinking about these things.
The dominant theories of emotion — whether classical, constructivist, neuroscientific, or evolutionary — are grounded in a common premise: that emotions are fundamentally bodily processes. Whether treated as physiological arousal, cognitive appraisals of bodily signals, or the activation of deep brain circuits evolved for survival, each theory assumes that the fundamental substrate of emotional experience is generated by and contained within the body.
This assumption has shaped the way we attempt to understand and work with emotion in psychotherapy, psychiatry, and self-help. Therapies focus on regulating the nervous system, reframing thoughts, or increasing bodily awareness. Medications target neurochemical imbalances, aiming to adjust emotional states through pharmacological intervention. Even in the realm of self-help, people are taught to manage their emotions through breathwork, grounding exercises, or external sensory interventions—strategies that treat feeling as something to be managed, modulated, manipulated rather than explored.
However, as our fieldwork observations have already demonstrated, the actual experience of emotion frequently defies these models. We have now observed numerous cases in which the virtual material properties of a given feeling state do not confine themselves to the boundaries of the body at all. Instead, they extend outward, forming fields, forces, densities, and structures that exist beyond the skin.
Not only do they extend outside the skin, but they carry experiential properties that simply could not be generated by somatically-based processes as we understand them. Substances like “thick kiwi skin,” “oozing blood tar,” and “empty, silent blackness,” for example, have no correlates in physiological tissue. Quite simply, these findings do not align with any current scientific framework, yet they emerge repeatedly in direct observation.
If we are to take our commitment to first-person science seriously, we must confront this gap between conventional theory and lived reality. Below, I offer further examples of feeling states that challenge the notion of emotion as a strictly bodily phenomenon. As you review these, reflect on what these suggest to you. What might be the origin of such experiences? What might they mean? How are we to make sense of them?
Delightfully Divergent Examples from Louise
The following examples are drawn from a single individual, Louise, whose maps we’ve encountered in other posts including the Frontiers of Psychotopology intro post and Revisiting Louise’s Transformation. These and the following examples are representative of what we find in mapping feeling states across all people. I’m choosing to focus on one person’s maps to highlight just how rich and diverse any one person’s inner experience is when we actually turn our attention inward in such a way as to actually see what’s there.
Fear of Loss
Out in front of me a foot or two, spherical, about a foot or two; a black gas cloud, with a smaller red gas cloud toward the bottom radiating out, infusing the black with color until it fades out; hot at the base and fades to cold at the top and outside; oval shape; not moving; sounds like a hollow echo.
The temperature contrast is important. It's like a burning out and a dissipating. But the core seems really strong…
This one is remarkable because of its location completely outside the body. Also, it’s like it’s own little environment, with the red/hot infusing upward into the black/cold.
Eternal Self
A light; white but all colors; in the base of my core, and the shape is moving up into my chest, shaped like a candle flame; a very steady, gentle pulse, a fluid pulse, moves all through it, speed of a slow heartbeat; no sound; it's very steady.
There's this feeling of eternity; it doesn't diffuse, it's always in existence, it feels very much there; it's a consciousness that exists, a consciousness that is me but it feels removed from everything else; it's this feeling of strength, a place to return to.
This sense of being “always in existence” is very interesting in this one, and the description of it as “a consciousness that is me but feels removed from everything else.
Lack of Awareness
In lower abdomen; a solid sphere, hard, heavy but floating; cold; black; floating motion, very slight rotation; a real silence. Feels like it's in my core but it also feels like it's surrounded by this vast, empty space that's inside of me.
It's inevitability… there's no way you can possibly be aware of how it's going to happen or how you will do it, but you will do it. It can't not happen, and there's no way to be prepared. (It = the thing you will say or do that will change everything.)
This one is interesting in that the name seems to point to something that has no emotional content, no “affect” or “valence” of any kind. Yet it reveals itself as being no less anchored in virtual materiality. I’ll have more examples of this in the next two posts.
Another interesting feature, the “vast, empty space that’s inside of me” — how can it be both vast and inside of her??
Point of Total Awareness
Slightly warmer than body temp; a light; a white-yellow glow; a tiny point that sends light into an area all around me, a sense of the void filled with light, and it's inside me but so much bigger than me, this feeling of vastness filling the space; no movement; no sound; this feeling of eternity and vastness.
Luminosity comes from a tiny point of awareness, consciousness; the tiny point illuminates everything around it, and it's just a shedding of light, absence of shadows. You don't need complete understanding. You just need a point of comprehension to shed light on the whole thing. This feeling of complete understanding being futile, and this point of understanding radiating luminosity and awareness.
Again, so interesting the way the vastness exists in a specific space, and how there is this origin, this source, for the light that is sent “into an area all around me, a sense of the void filled with light.” Also interesting is the way her words describing her experience of this sound so much like certain kinds of enlightened states, yes? These kinds of states can be found inside all of us.
Longing
Deep inside, small, extends out of me, kind of elastic, way out there; soft, like many silk threads, close, not woven together; gray-blue, opaque; a gentle tug; a whisper, my voice, a part of me but completely outside of myself, from another space/existence, an older me, gentle.
The whisper: "Come forward, and trust." A very steady pull. I don't feel forced or like I'm trying to resist. I remember feeling this when I was six or seven, knowing something was possible but not knowing what it was.
This silken elastic band stretching out who-knows-how-far into the distance, and a voice, “a part of me but completely outside of myself, from another space/existence, an older me, gentle.” To me, discovering this kind of amazing inner experience in someone is utterly fascinating, and completely unexpected.
Support
Between solid and liquid, very wet, sticky mud; cold, clammy; gray, gray/brown, not real specific, dark, opaque; no movement; up to just above my ankles, past my feet but the depth doesn't seem to matter (or it goes down infinitely), and it goes out in all directions. I'm able to move through it but very, very slowly. A feeling of real weight about it.
When you can step out of this, you can answer that call. But you can't right now because you don't have the strength to lift your feet out of the mud. Without the mud holding my feet, I would fall, without the tools to stand above it. It's telling me to "Step out, when you're ready."
Wow, this sticky, clammy cold mud burying the feet up to the ankles and “going out in all directions.” What do you make of this? Keep in mind that this is not merely a metaphor, not a “mental image” or construct of the imagination, but a distinct, tangible perception of the actual feel state Louise named Support. She feels the presence of this “support” at her feet and all around her.
Chaotic World
Coming down toward my head at an angle, straight at me. Sharp, jabbing, hard, all different shapes and sizes, squares, spheres, rods, different textures, all solid but metal, all different textures. And scattered energy, more like gas, pushing at me, a constant onslaught. All temperatures but more in the warm to hot range. Bright, aggressively primary colors. A faint, continuous clatter of things bumping into each other, moving, random, scattered, voices, nothing very loud but everything from chattering to faint screams and shrieks, laughter (not the good kind).
Threatening. Assault. Intrusive. I'm not prepared.
This one sounds downright unpleasant, don’t you think? And it is 100% outside the body, out in front, with a chaotic presentation that is very clearly not a somatic sensation of any form.
The Infinite Universe
Goes out infinitely, these floating shapes, golden color, close/far, all accessible, infinite different shapes, moving gently, all different directions, pulsing almost; they move through me or touch me and move in another direction, all really gentle. Very gentle humming sound, vibration. Shapes are gold and shape-able. Gentle warm to hot temp.
Everything is accessible. Therefore, reach out and select what you want. You can select from an infinite array of choices, all different ones, and they'll all fit together somehow.
The most remarkable quality of this state is the way it “goes out infinitely.” Let me say that again for emphasis: “infinitely.” There is no current scientific model of the mind and emotions that has anything to say in response to this actual, observed and recorded inner experience.
What Are We to Make of These Observations?
The current status of our science of human experience is extremely limited. We have plenty of data about physiological markers, and we have correlated that data (crudely) to reports of emotional experience. Despite these correlations being very rough and imprecise, the effort itself has bound our current understanding into this very small box: emotion is a somatic phenomenon.
This has disruptive effects on our ongoing awareness. We develop our habits of attention in close interaction with our shared stories about what is real. This shared story results in locking our attention exclusively to the space inside our skin when we seek some information about what we are feeling.
This is like looking for your keys under the street light even though you lost them in the dark alley. You’ll only be able to see the random stones and an empty vape cartridge or candy wrapper where you’re looking. No keys. So you will take on the assumption that the keys must no longer exist.
This is the cost of not having the capacity to observe actual subjective experience, avoiding factoring that limitation honestly into the interpretation of our investigations, and having the hutzpah to call it real science instead of overtly acknowledging its tentative basis.
An Example of the Box
I want to share an excerpt from an email I received from Bonnita Roy a couple years ago. Bonnita is one of many people currently promoting this idea that wisdom comes through the body, and designing conceptual systems that train awareness to point away from feelingmind toward somatic sensation. This email announced an upcoming course she was offering, the first module of which was called Affect and Emotion. Here is how she articulated this offering:
“You will learn more about
“That affects come directly from our animal nature and course through the body through the very same neuro-dynamic streams, utilizing the very-same electro-chemical systems
“The particular emotional tone that becomes associated with each affect stream is conditioned by your early childhood relations
“That many so-called embodiment teachers do not / can not make the distinction between affective processes in the body and thought- narrative content that creates the emotional valence
“The difference between affect and dispositional states, and the wisdom practices that have maximum effect on dispositional states.
“You will identify your particular affective resonance and rhythms, and
“See that there is a direct path from the contracted states to the fully awakened states of the affect streams.”
She sets herself apart from other “so-called embodiment teachers” because she is taking a tack more aligned with Lisa Feldman-Barrett, in which the somatic channel is primary and the cognitive interpretation shapes that primary channel into more nuanced “dispositional states.”
This completely bypasses the actual, lived experience of feelingmind. It’s just not here, not accounted for. Everything is reduced to the body (“neuro-dynamic streams” and “electro-chemical systems”) and the thinking (“thought-narrative content”).
What’s Coming Next
Over the next few posts, I will share more fieldwork observations of what people actually experience on the inside, revealing more about how fantastically wondrous this inner world actually is, especially in comparison to our currently limited view on it.
Reflections
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Joe,
From the perspective of my mediumship experience, I find this all so fascinating. Here's what came up for me.
As an evidential medium, I'm training myself to experience the informational universe, the quantum realms or thought forms as persons who are no longer in bodies. It's uncanny how accurate the information that comes through is. Sometimes, I'm blown away by the accuracy, yet the information comes in so many different ways. I may feel myself in a vortex with hands reaching in to help me out, yet I can't quite grip them (a young man who died from a fentanyl overdose). Or I may see myself in a restaurant, having a meal, laughing, observing people around me and joking about them (a former boyfriend who passed and the person didn't know he had until she looked up the information and found out, indeed, he had transitioned). I see this as the "feeling states" I experience interpreted through the lens of how I've trained myself to frame them for the purpose or intention of noticing who, in spirit, is present. Or, another way to frame it is, what thought form/energy is influencing how I feel at this moment?
As someone doing fieldwork, I would be training myself to experience the informational/quantum world of my emotions in the way you describe. I know this is throwing a wrench into the idea, but what if our emotional states are not always our own? What if the quantum entanglement on which we overlay a certain paradigm has influences that are beyond the singular experience, a part of a collective experience in which we participate? What if a loved one on the other side of the veil is using an emotional experience to get our attention?
Just my thoughts. I love your work and how you are presenting it. As you know, I'm fascinated by the exploration of consciousness and its various expressions and am SO glad you are sharing your experience, the fruits of your study, and insights.